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The new Threadripper 3970X tested: High end in any case

Kevin Hofer
25.11.2019
Translation: machine translated

Having already tested the Ryzen 3950X, I'm now holding the Threadripper 3970X in my hands. With so much computing power, I can no longer stop marvelling.

A Threadripper processor looks really powerful: In contrast to the Ryzen 3950X, it feels like it weighs a tonne. A high-end desktop processor (HEDT) has its weight. I can't marvel at it for too long. The processor has to go on the test bench, I only have a few hours to test it before the review embargo falls.

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X (TRX4, 3.70 GHz, 32 -Core)
Processors

AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X

TRX4, 3.70 GHz, 32 -Core

The chip in detail

Each Threadripper processor consists of 4 Zen 2 dies that are connected to an I/O die. This serves as the central hub of the processor. The part houses a total of 23.54 billion transistors.

The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X is the most powerful high-end consumer desktop processor in 2019. It has 32 cores and 64 threads as well as 128 MB L3 cache. The processor is clocked at 3.7 GHz base and 4.5 GHz boost. 88 Gen 4 PCIe lanes are available and the TDP is 280 watts. The third generation Threadripper now has the sTRX4 socket, which requires a new TRX40 mainboard. Asus provided me with the ROG Zenith II Extreme for the review. According to the CPU-Z tool, it runs AGESA Castle Peak 1.0.0.2.
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Test methodology

I base my test methodology on that of our graphics cards. I therefore carry out the same tests for the most part. For the Blender benchmark, however, I run the CPU benchmark, which only uses the CPU for rendering. I also run the Cinebench R20, the AIDA 64 stress test and transcode a 1080p film with Handbrake. I'm leaving out the VR benchmarks because this is where the graphics card comes into play.

The processor is tested on our DimasTech Easy V3.0 benchtable with the following components:

G.Skill Trident Z RGB (4 x 16GB, 3600 MHz, DDR4-RAM, DIMM)
RAM
EUR194,89

G.Skill Trident Z RGB

4 x 16GB, 3600 MHz, DDR4-RAM, DIMM

Corsair MP600 (1000 GB, M.2 2280)
SSD

Corsair MP600

1000 GB, M.2 2280

As I currently lack a basis for comparison - I have only just started benching processors and graphics cards - I am listing the results of this test and only comparing them with those of the 3950X. However, this comparison should be treated with caution. On the one hand, I have 64 GB of RAM on the testbench with the Threadripper, as opposed to the 16 GB on the graphics card testbench. On the other hand, some of you have questioned my results on the 3950X review. I am now doing night tests and will then deliver the results, of course also with 64 GB RAM.

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Synthetic benchmarks and temperatures

Cinebench R20

With Cinebench from Maxon, you can test how your PC or processor performs when rendering Cinema 4D content. Here are the results of the 3970X compared to the 3950X.

In the single core, the 3970X does not come close to the 3950X. This is to be expected with the lower clock rate. However, it achieves a multi-core score of 16,596 points, which I have never seen before. It's a real pleasure to watch the render animation of Cinebench R20 in Multi Core. I usually do this with lame processors on notebooks.

Fire Strike and Time Spy

Here are the results of the Time Spy and Fire Strike benchmarks.

And here in detail:

BenchmarkOverall Score
3970X / 3950X
Physics / CPU Score
3970X / 3950X
Combined Score
3970X / 3950X
Fire Strike
(1080p, DirectX 11)
22 815 / 22 46725 197; 79.99 FPS / 31 526; 100.08 FPS15 272; 71.04 FPS / 12 549; 58.37 FPS
Fire Strike Ultra
(2160p, DirectX 11)
6596 / 682125 330; 80.42 FPS / 31 424; 99.76 FPS3619; 16.84 FPS 3676; 17.1 FPS
Time Spy
(1440p, DirectX 12)
11 142 / 11 55611 598; 38.97 FPS / 11 435; 38.42 FPSn/a
Time Spy Extreme
(2160p, DirectX 12)
5801 / 559015 537; 22.5 ms frametime / 8045; 43.5 ms frametimen/a

The 3970X performs about the same as the 3950X. Most of the differences are small, which can be attributed to the benchmark error rate. What stands out: In Fire Strike, the 3950X achieves the better result in the CPU-heavy calculations. In Time Spy it is exactly the opposite. At a clock rate of just over 4.2 GHz, the 3970X reached a maximum temperature of 67° Celsius during the benchmark.

To get an even better picture of the temperatures, I run the CPU stress test from AIDA64. I activate the options Stress CPU, Stress FPU, Stress Cache and Stress System Memory. I let the test run for two hours. During this time, I have at least 3.95 GHz on all cores and an average temperature of 62.5° Celsius. The temperature curve is flat. After just a quarter of an hour, I reach around 63° Celsius. The temperature does not rise any further.

Puget Systems Photoshop benchmark

The Photoshop benchmark uses the following reference workstation as the basis for calculating the scores:

  • Intel Core i9 9900K 8 Core
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB
  • 64 GB RAM
  • Samsung 960 Pro 1 TB

The results of the reference workstation can be used to estimate how well other systems perform. The two processors achieve the following results

And here in detail:

ScoresThreadripper 3970XRyzen 9 3950XReference workstation
Overall Score1043.4953.41000
General Score106.595.7100
Filter Score101.992.5100
Photomerge Score104.9100.3100
GPU Score108.594.5100

The Threadripper achieves around 8 per cent more points than the Ryzen 3950X. Interestingly, the difference in the GPU score is large. It seems as if the 3970X works better with the graphics card than the 3950X.

Puget Systems Premiere Benchmark

Here, our test benchmark does not compete against a reference workstation. In the Puget Systems Premiere benchmark, the score is calculated relative to the frame rate of the test videos. If the test video has an FPS of 29.97 and the system renders it at 29.97 FPS, the score is 100 points. If it is only 14.98 FPS, it is only 50.

The benchmark runs media in the formats 4K H.264 with 150 Mbps in 8 bit (59.94 FPS), 4K ProRes 422 16 bit (59.94 FPS) and 4K RED (59.94 FPS). He tested live playback in Adobe Premiere Pro and the export. A value of 100 is the maximum for live playback, as Premiere cannot play back the media faster than specified. For export, on the other hand, over 100 points are feasible, as rendering is not limited to the FPS of the media.

In addition, effects are added to ten ProRes 422 clips, which place a heavy load on the graphics card. Puget Systems calls this "4K Heavy GPU Effects". These clips are then played back in Premiere and exported. The same happens with Heavy CPU Effects, with effects that place a heavy load on the CPU. The CPU value is particularly relevant for the Ryzen comparison. I have nevertheless listed the GPU values for the sake of completeness.

Here are the results of the 3970X:

And here in detail:

TestThreadripper 3970XRyzen 9 3950X
Overall Score956695.5
Live playback score80.671
Export Score110.668.1
4K H.264 with 150 Mbps in 8 bit (59.94 FPS)81 Live Playback Score
171 Export Score
55 Live Playback Score
99 Export Score
4K ProRes 422 16 bit (59.94 FPS)100 Live Playback Score
175 Export Score
99 Live Playback Score
100 Export Score
4K RED (59.94 FPS)82 Live Playback Score
121 Export Score
66 Live Playback Score
85 Export Score
4K Heavy GPU Effects78 Live Playback Score
50 Export Score
79 Live Playback Score
48 Export Score
4K Heavy CPU Effects62 Live Playback Score
36 Export Score
55 Live Playback Score
20 Export Score

The Threadripper virtually destroys the 3950X in the Premiere benchmark. Around 27 percentage points more is enormous. And this is despite the fact that the graphics card in combination with the 3970X is left behind compared to the 3950X.

Puget Systems after-effects benchmark

In the Puget Systems After Effects benchmark, the benchmark scores are structured similarly to Photoshop. The following reference workstation serves as the basis for calculating the scores:

  • Intel Core i9 9900K
  • 128 GB RAM
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 8GB

The results of the reference workstation can be used to estimate how well other systems perform. Our test benchmark achieves the following results:

And here in detail:

ScoresThreadripper 3970XRyzen 9 3950XReference workstation
Overall Score107010071000
Render Score113.5103.1100
Preview Score102.697.4100
Tracking score104.9101.6100

The 3950X has already achieved brilliant results in the After Effects benchmark. At around 6 per cent, the Threadripper 3970X does even better.

Puget Systems Resolve benchmark

The scores of the Resolve benchmark from Puget Systems are also based on a reference workstation. The scores are determined by encoding in 4K. The reference workstation is based on the following components:

  • Intel Core i9 9900K
  • A minimum of 32 GB RAM (not mentioned by Puget Systems)
  • NVIDIA Titan RTX 24 GB

The 3970X achieves the following results in the 4K benchmark
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And here in detail:

ScoresThreadripper 3970XRyzen 9 3950XReference workstation
4K Average Results Overall Score11639321000
4K H264 150 Mbps 8 bit Codec Average Score119.793.2100
4K Cinema Raw Light109.795.7100
4K ProRes 422121.390.9100
4K ProRes 4444128.990.2100
4K RED101.695.9100

In Resolve, the difference to the Ryzen 3950X is striking. The Threadripper 3970X delivers around 23 per cent more performance. With this result, it also beats the reference workstation by far.

Handbrake

To compare the performance of the Ryzen 9 3900X and 3950X, I transcode the film "Drive". The source file is a 19 GB H.264 file. I select the "HQ 1080p30 Surround" preset in Handbrake and transcode the film.

The 3970X takes 20 minutes and 45 seconds to transcode. That's five minutes and 48 seconds less than the Ryzen 3950X needs.

Blender

The Blender benchmark renders six different scenes: Barbershop Interior, BMW27, Classroom, Fishy Cat, Koro and Pavilion Barcelona. The benchmark tests either the CPU or GPU. For the Ryzen comparison, I run the CPU benchmark. The times required per scene are recorded and totalled. Here are the results.

And here in detail:

**Rendered sceneTime required Threadripper 3970XRequired time Ryzen 9 3950X
Total17 minutes 44 seconds31 minutes 25 seconds
Barbershop Interior5 minutes 57 seconds10 minutes 45 seconds
BMW 271 minute 3 seconds2 minutes 1 second
Classroom3 minutes 25 seconds6 minutes 39 seconds
Fishy Cat1 minute 34 seconds2 minutes 59 seconds
Koro2 minutes 19 seconds4 minutes 10 seconds
Pavilion Barcelona2 minutes 27 seconds4 minutes 50 seconds

What a difference: The 3970X is over 13 minutes faster than the 3950X. In Blender, the many cores are very noticeable. The Threadripper is even faster than the Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+: It takes 24 minutes and 27 seconds to render the six scenes.

Games

Last but not least, our four game benchmarks. I don't yet have any values for "Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" on the 3900X. I'll provide those in the night tests. But that's it: The results of the 3950X should be taken with a grain of salt. In addition to the average, minimum and maximum FPS, I also provide you with the average frametime. As I now determine FPS and frametime with FRAPS, the whole thing is shown slightly differently.

The results in detail:

GamesThreadripper 3970X
FPS
Ryzen 9 3950X
FPS
"Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" (DX11)
FPS 1080p, highest presets
min. 29
average 116,657
max. 156
Frametime: 8.57 ms
n/a
"Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" (DX11)
FPS 1440, highest presets
min. 29
average 84,453
max. 108
Frametime: 11.8 ms
n/a
"Deus Ex: Mankind Divided" (DX11)
FPS 2160, highest presets
min. 27
average 47,614
max. 60
Frametime: 21 ms
n/a
"Control" (DX11)
FPS 1080p, highest presets
min. 77
average 93,003
max. 114
Frametime: 10.7 ms
min. 59.1
average 113
max. 242.8
Frametime: 7-9 ms
"Control (DX11)
FPS 1440p, highest presets
min. 53
average 63,795
max. 74
Frametime: 15.7 ms
min. 53.1
average 59.5
max. 60.6
Frametime: 16-18 ms
"Control" (DX11)
FPS 2160p, highest presets
min. 26
average 32,031
max. 39
Frametime: 31.2 ms
min. 21.7
average 49.8
max. 242.7
Frametime: 31-34 ms
"Control (DX12)
FPS 1080p, highest presets, raytracing maximum
min. 44
average 52,563
max. 66
Frametime: 19 ms
min. 31.3
average 51.7
max. 61.4
Frametime: 18-20 ms
"Control (DX12)
FPS 1440p, highest presets, raytracing maximum
min. 27
average 35,888
max. 96
Frametime: 27.8 ms
min. 28.8
average 37.9
max. 60.1
Frametime: 28-30 ms
"Control" (DX12)
FPS 2160p, highest presets, ray tracing maximum
min. 15
average 18,993
max. 25
Frametime: 52.6 ms
min. 16
average 19
max. 21.9
Frametime: 50-60 ms
"Shadow of the Tomb Raider" (DX12)
FPS 1080p, highest presets
min. 2
average 134,192
max. 184
Frametime: 7.45 ms
min. 70.7
average 119.1
max. 186.4
Frametime: 6-8 ms
"Shadow of Tomb Raider (DX12)
FPS 1440p, highest presets
min. 2
average 99,592
max. 344
Frametime: 10 ms
min. 67.5
average 99.1
max. 164.2
Frametime: 9-11 ms
"Shadow of Tomb Raider" (DX12)
FPS 2160p, highest presets
min. 2
average 52,049
max. 140
Frametime: 19.2 ms
min. 24.9
average 54.4
max. 167.3
Frametime: 18-20 ms
"Strange Brigade" (Vulkan)
FPS 1080p, highest presets
min. 155.3
average 216.5
max. 312.5
Frametime: 4.62 ms
min. 193.8
average 225.3
max. 267.9
Frametime: 6-8 ms
"Strange Brigade" (Vulkan)
FPS 1440p, highest presets
min. 120
average 159.4
max. 217
Frametime: 6,274 ms
min. 165.7
average 182.2
max. 229
Frametime: 6-8 ms
"Strange Brigade (Vulkan)
FPS 2160p, highest presets
min. 42.5
average 91.3
max. 269.6
Frametime: 10.952 ms
min. 79.2
average 91.6
max. 112.7
Frametime: 10-12 ms

Next time, the frametime data will follow in graphical form.

The Threadripper 3970X and the Ryzen 3950X go head-to-head in the games. Sometimes the Threadripper is faster, sometimes the Ryzen. But the difference is never big.

Conclusion: Many cores for a lot of performance

The Threadripper 3970X is a real beast. It not only delivers plenty of performance in heavy-core applications, but also in games. Sure, just under 2200 francs for the processor is a proud price. But a HEDT processor costs money. If you have the money and need a lot of cores - and decent speed in single-core mode too - the Threadripper 3970X is definitely the right choice.

I'm now going to start testing the Ryzen 3950X and then compare the processors I've tested so far - 3900X, 3950X and 3970X - again.

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